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Post by carlita on Nov 25, 2003 9:54:55 GMT -5
Was she asking for it??? The Stranger, the Seattle alternative weekly, has devoted an entire issue to an OBITUARY to Courtney Love and her career - the problem is, she's not dead. www.thestranger.comThis publication likes to push the boundaries of "humor" but is an entire issue dedicated to the death of someone who is not dead going too far? We want to know what you think. Thanks for your responses!! xoxoxo Carla |
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Post by guitargoddess on Dec 8, 2003 4:55:46 GMT -5
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Hi Carla,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Isn't the
media supposed to use ETHICS? I read in the MTV news
that Courtney turned herself in to a rehab clinic. I pray
for her that she will be able to stay clean and give us
some more of her rockin' music! I miss her. As far as the issue goes - it seems like all the comics are picking
on her just because they can. I think the media should
be more responsible - they can ruin a person's life - e.g.
Princess Diana. The next time someone picks on Courtney, they should remember that she has a child,
and Courtney deserves a chance to straighten herself
out. I hope she comes back and shows those guys
why they're so jealous of her, because she has real
talent! She's still a human being; I don't see how anyone cannot break under all that pressure that she has received. Thanks, Carla for caring. I wish I had seen you on TV, but I don't get cable right now.
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Post by pdm on Dec 31, 2003 9:00:56 GMT -5
Margret Cho has an interesting take on CL:
11/15/2003
Courtney, Whitney, Rush
Courtney Love is the white Whitney Houston. Houston had a considerably higher profile, making a splash in the 80s with her pyramid perm and octaroon beauty, she looked white enough to be unthreatening to the dominant culture, yet still was a descendent of R&B royalty. When she sang the powerhouse hit "I'm Every Woman" we all believed her. She made love with Kevin Costner on the big screen, the whitest dude outside of the John Birch Society, and made a huge hit out of "My Bodyguard," not to be confused with the brilliant '70s film starring Chris Makepeace. Her follow-up film, "The Preacher's Wife," was not so successful, possibly because she was paired with Denzel Washington and in the unwritten laws of race in Hollywood, her "Imitation of Life" identity became tarnished, as in her cinematic union with another Black actor, made her darker by proxy. Whitney didn't get better, as she started on a downward spiral, and unraveling of her 'passable' status that was unfairly begun by her marriage to a self-diagnosed 'bad boy' with his own 'prerogative,' Bobby Brown, a marginally criminal drug addict, who happened to be a Black man, making the American public realize that in fact, Whitney, despite all her attempts, unintentional and unfairly presented, that she was not white, and thereafter fell from grace in the glare of the media spotlight. Now she is considered a visual joke, a train wreck. All her glorious talent seems to have not made a dent in the creepy culture vulture den and there is never anything to report any longer about her except for her inexplicable forays into Middle Eastern countries and bailing her husband out of jail.
Love, also of inestimable talent, is slightly different in her history, yet she is considered a nutcase of the highest order in the same Whitney-esque fashion. She shows up and is photographed as unflatteringly as possible time and time again, emaciated from drugs and misquoted to the point of mania, in order to punish the fact that she is a successful woman, despite her husband's tragic end and her own personal lifetime bout with narcotics.
Nirvana's Kurt Cobain is without a doubt one of music's most influential figures and his legacy will live forever in the annals of rock history, but in the talent department, Love is certainly no slouch. Her band, Hole, is a magnificent display of female angst and sexual predatory power. I love Courtney because she is unapologetically herself and intimidatingly intelligent despite all the media attempts to make her less so. Her latest war with the former members of Nirvana are a good example of how the media will immediately side with the boys against her, as she is vilified, considered a shrill, unbelievable harpie. It is often speculated "If he had to be married to her, no wonder he shot himself in the head." Facts notwithstanding, no one was willing to side with her, in the tug of war of unreleased tracks, Kurt's farewell to a cruel world. By rights, as executor of Cobain's estate, Love owns the music. She may not have written the songs, she may not have been a supermodel rock wife, she did drugs with Kurt, but she also was trying to get him into detox. Love desperately tried to save Kurt's life. Kurt did not want help, and as we now know, did not want to be Kurt anymore. Cobain's music lives on, even if he is no longer on the earth, and Love is responsible for the maintenance and respectable distribution of her late husband's legacy.
The latest Courtney conundrum has her facing possible sentencing and the loss of her daughter with Cobain, Frances Bean. The drugs she is accused of possessing are Hydrocondone and Oxycontin, the exact same deadly combination that got Rush Limbaugh in such trouble a mere five weeks ago. She brilliantly quipped, "It wasn't like I was shoplifting or anything." Of course, the media spin on it was that she was just being her loony Vagina Dentata self, and what could anyone expect from her really. So if we prosecute the abusers of drugs, why is it not done with equal measure? Rush Limbaugh, on the opposite side of the political spectrum, did the same drugs, likely, more of them, at least according to the sources that he procured them from. Why does Rush not face the same predicament? What is the difference? The inequality here is unspeakably clear. Rush, once out of rehab will have a job waiting for him as the highest rated radio talk show host in America. Most likely, this scandal will make his popularity soar, as more will tune in just to see if he will fall back off the pharmaceutical wagon again. Why are we threatening to take away Courtney Love's child, as Eminem proudly displays a tattoo of a Vicodin pill on his arm? Double standards rule, even in counterculture, where they are supposedly above that, which makes the whole shebang all the more criminal. Free Courtney. Maybe get her another nanny, but free Courtney.
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Post by troublemonkey on May 3, 2004 4:44:23 GMT -5
courtney wont die yet dont worry
she proberly hasnt made enough money yet
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Post by Dragon on Jul 30, 2004 19:44:57 GMT -5
courtney wont die yet dont worry she proberly hasnt made enough money yet She claims to be broke. How that's possible is beyond me. |
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Post by carlita on Aug 2, 2004 9:09:53 GMT -5
She claims to be broke. How that's possible is beyond me. Legal expenses will suck the bank account out of anyone. |
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Post by Maggis on Aug 8, 2004 6:47:57 GMT -5
Well call me nuts but i actually quite like courtney love. .. Shes all about being mad and rude and full of shit and thats why I think she's cool.
In short let me translate that article into plain english
"courtney love is too old and neurotic to fancy so lets talk about someone else now"
Well stick and orange on my mouth and bugger me -I don't think so...
Theres plenty more to say when it comes to courtney love all the others are just second rate copies. She is the ultamate pre madonna but shes our premadonna. Her music is high quality stuff, granted the girl can't sing to save her life but good production sorts that out anyway. She can write songs -good songs and she can act too.
OK so shes absolutely insane now but shes getting on a bit, that doesn't mean shes dead. She may never make another album again which is probably best but so what?... Doesn't it pain everyone here to see the saggy skinned rolling stones prancing about at their age? Courtney love will continue to sell records long after shes dead.
I'd like to thump the person that wrote that article
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Post by Dragon on Aug 9, 2004 14:12:21 GMT -5
Margret Cho has an interesting take on CL:
11/15/2003
Courtney, Whitney, Rush
Courtney Love is the white Whitney Houston. Houston had a considerably higher profile, making a splash in the 80s with her pyramid perm and octaroon beauty, she looked white enough to be unthreatening to the dominant culture, yet still was a descendent of R&B royalty. When she sang the powerhouse hit "I'm Every Woman" we all believed her. She made love with Kevin Costner on the big screen, the whitest dude outside of the John Birch Society, and made a huge hit out of "My Bodyguard," not to be confused with the brilliant '70s film starring Chris Makepeace. Her follow-up film, "The Preacher's Wife," was not so successful, possibly because she was paired with Denzel Washington and in the unwritten laws of race in Hollywood, her "Imitation of Life" identity became tarnished, as in her cinematic union with another Black actor, made her darker by proxy. Whitney didn't get better, as she started on a downward spiral, and unraveling of her 'passable' status that was unfairly begun by her marriage to a self-diagnosed 'bad boy' with his own 'prerogative,' Bobby Brown, a marginally criminal drug addict, who happened to be a Black man, making the American public realize that in fact, Whitney, despite all her attempts, unintentional and unfairly presented, that she was not white, and thereafter fell from grace in the glare of the media spotlight. Now she is considered a visual joke, a train wreck. All her glorious talent seems to have not made a dent in the creepy culture vulture den and there is never anything to report any longer about her except for her inexplicable forays into Middle Eastern countries and bailing her husband out of jail.
Love, also of inestimable talent, is slightly different in her history, yet she is considered a nutcase of the highest order in the same Whitney-esque fashion. She shows up and is photographed as unflatteringly as possible time and time again, emaciated from drugs and misquoted to the point of mania, in order to punish the fact that she is a successful woman, despite her husband's tragic end and her own personal lifetime bout with narcotics.
Nirvana's Kurt Cobain is without a doubt one of music's most influential figures and his legacy will live forever in the annals of rock history, but in the talent department, Love is certainly no slouch. Her band, Hole, is a magnificent display of female angst and sexual predatory power. I love Courtney because she is unapologetically herself and intimidatingly intelligent despite all the media attempts to make her less so. Her latest war with the former members of Nirvana are a good example of how the media will immediately side with the boys against her, as she is vilified, considered a shrill, unbelievable harpie. It is often speculated "If he had to be married to her, no wonder he shot himself in the head." Facts notwithstanding, no one was willing to side with her, in the tug of war of unreleased tracks, Kurt's farewell to a cruel world. By rights, as executor of Cobain's estate, Love owns the music. She may not have written the songs, she may not have been a supermodel rock wife, she did drugs with Kurt, but she also was trying to get him into detox. Love desperately tried to save Kurt's life. Kurt did not want help, and as we now know, did not want to be Kurt anymore. Cobain's music lives on, even if he is no longer on the earth, and Love is responsible for the maintenance and respectable distribution of her late husband's legacy.
The latest Courtney conundrum has her facing possible sentencing and the loss of her daughter with Cobain, Frances Bean. The drugs she is accused of possessing are Hydrocondone and Oxycontin, the exact same deadly combination that got Rush Limbaugh in such trouble a mere five weeks ago. She brilliantly quipped, "It wasn't like I was shoplifting or anything." Of course, the media spin on it was that she was just being her loony Vagina Dentata self, and what could anyone expect from her really. So if we prosecute the abusers of drugs, why is it not done with equal measure? Rush Limbaugh, on the opposite side of the political spectrum, did the same drugs, likely, more of them, at least according to the sources that he procured them from. Why does Rush not face the same predicament? What is the difference? The inequality here is unspeakably clear. Rush, once out of rehab will have a job waiting for him as the highest rated radio talk show host in America. Most likely, this scandal will make his popularity soar, as more will tune in just to see if he will fall back off the pharmaceutical wagon again. Why are we threatening to take away Courtney Love's child, as Eminem proudly displays a tattoo of a Vicodin pill on his arm? Double standards rule, even in counterculture, where they are supposedly above that, which makes the whole shebang all the more criminal. Free Courtney. Maybe get her another nanny, but free Courtney. Thanks, I like that snippit  |
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Post by Danielle on Jan 4, 2005 23:30:52 GMT -5
I think Courtneys career is over. It isn't an issue about gender this is an issue about music and Courtneys music has been going down hill ever since 1996. Besides Courtney has suffered worst insults than that. Have a look at this. woundedbtrfly.proboards18.com/ |
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Post by Discordia on Jan 7, 2005 14:21:30 GMT -5
I think that is DISGUSTING! Don't people have anything better to do than bitch about someone they don't even know? She's not my favourite person either, but geez, she's still human! To me, she is sad and pathetic, and it's not something to make fun of. I see a really lost, wounded person when I look at her...and no matter how much I think she can be a bitch, I can't help but feel a bit sorry and compassionate for her. Can you imagine how her daughter feels, seeing all these people bash her mom...God, humans are really something.
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Post by Maggis on Jan 17, 2005 19:13:38 GMT -5
I think Courtneys career is over. It isn't an issue about gender this is an issue about music and Courtneys music has been going down hill ever since 1996. Besides Courtney has suffered worst insults than that. Have a look at this. woundedbtrfly.proboards18.com/That message board was funny... The vicky pollard approach to the subject courtney love SHAAAUP YOU WEREN'T EVEN THERE!" |
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Post by NoSpine on Jan 24, 2005 16:19:10 GMT -5
That obituary was not called for.She's alive and kicking wether people like it or not.I'm not saying I like Courtney.She can barely play the guitar and her behavoir is a bit....ya know.
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Post by Maggis on Jan 28, 2005 0:02:28 GMT -5
That obituary was not called for.She's alive and kicking wether people like it or not.I'm not saying I like Courtney.She can barely play the guitar and her behavoir is a bit....ya know. I don't get why everyone disses courtney love's guitar playing so much, she's more of a songwriter any way, rhythm guitar is important and I think she seems to be alright... I think people subconciously compare her to Kurt Cobain why they cuss her so much and it's not really fair because they were doing different things noone says "oh bob dylan what a fucking shit guitarist" ya get me? |
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Post by Discordia on Jan 28, 2005 10:48:04 GMT -5
I agree Maggis...she isn't that horrible. I sure have heard worse! I think she's just an easy target of negative criticism. If there isn't one thing people are on her case about, it's another, or they'll find something. She's just one of those people that are easy to put down, and I think that's sad!
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Post by Danielle on Feb 15, 2005 1:34:35 GMT -5
I think Courtneys career is over. It isn't an issue about gender this is an issue about music and Courtneys music has been going down hill ever since 1996. Besides Courtney has suffered worst insults than that. Have a look at this. woundedbtrfly.proboards18.com/You guys want to hear something really silly. I got on trouble on that forum for posting it here and making it a laughing stock. They claimed I was obsessed with them. Silly ha? |
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