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Post by Maggis on May 22, 2005 12:24:06 GMT -5
Another thing to try: mix down to CD and listen on every set of speakers you can get your hands on. Listen to how your mix translates on different systems, then you'll have a better idea how your monitors will sound out there in the real world. Yeah I do that I thats usually when I have to go back and remix everything haha
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Post by EngineerGrl on May 22, 2005 21:37:16 GMT -5
Konzertmeister:
There are many decent near-field montors out there now. I would recomment powered monitors rather than passive ones (they need an amp). Powered monitors are much better sound quality. Mackie and Tannoy have nice ones for around $300-400. If that's too much money, Alesis and Behringer have models for under $200. Now, if money is no object and you want the very best, go for the Meyer HD-1 monitors for around $3000.
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Post by EngineerGrl on May 22, 2005 21:38:45 GMT -5
LOL Maggis: Same here!!!
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Post by EngineerGrl on May 22, 2005 21:49:32 GMT -5
Koncertmeister:
I've read all of Bill Gibson's books. He is great!!
Sounds like you've got a lot going on in your life and the classes will be intense but stick with it -- it will be worth it girl!! We need more females in the field. The technical part of music making has always been male dominated and it's up to us to change that!!
The MIDI stuff is awesome girl. Once you get that under your belt you'll be amazed at what you'll be able to do!!
Good luck!!
Gail
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Post by EngineerGrl on May 22, 2005 22:05:28 GMT -5
Hey Konzertmeister:
How do you like the VX400? I haven't heard it yet and wondering if it lives up to the hipe.
I have the Studio Vocalist (rack version) and love it!
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Post by Maggis on May 23, 2005 14:59:25 GMT -5
I'd suggest getting monitors like the ones I got (jbl control 1s) I didn't pay for them so I'm not sure how much the cost but I'd guess about 200 or 300 american dollars they are pretty accurate and really little and when the warranty runs out u can upgrade the components... downside perhaps -they are passive so you would need an amp and to get some speaker cable to go with them
Sorry engineerGrl but it'd got to be said... DON'T BUY BEHRINGER! if your going to spend under twohundred dollars on a pair of monitors I'd recomend instead spending the same of amount of money on a good set of headphones until you can afford something better... The components will be higher quality the sound will be far more accurate obviously a pair of headphones for 200 quid is going to better than a pair of active speakers ... You should have some anyway
reccomendation = beyer dynamic DT 150s techinqually speaking = they are really fucking good! I love mine so much it hurts... only downside is they look stupid hehe
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Post by EngineerGrl on May 23, 2005 17:53:48 GMT -5
Maggis: I respect your opinion about Behringer products and agree that they are not of the highest quality, but sometimes we have to cut corners. I started out on a low-end pair of regular stereo speakers - they weren't even studio monitors. If you "know" your speakers (their strengths and weaknesses) you can get fairly accurate mixes on them. Behringer monitors are not ideal, but in a pinch, I believe they are better than nothing. In the early days of my career, I cut my engineering teeth on some Behringer units. Of course, as soon as funds were available I upgraded to better equipment.
In the same price range, is the Alesis M1 active monitors; I've used them and they are quite good. Oh, I failed to mention in my previous post the JBL's -- excellent! Hard to go wrong with JBL's. Then, there are the industry standard Yamaha NS-10 monitors -- I don't even know what they go for now, I think they're around $300-400 US dollars.
Konzertmeister: Keep in mind that if you purchase passive speakers, you will also have to purchase an amp and speaker cables -- the quality of the amp will factor into everything. If you buy really good passive speakers and hook them up to a crappy amp ... well, you know what you'll get. So, weigh the pros and cons of passive vs. active speakers.
Maggia: How much is 200 quid in US dollars?
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Post by Maggis on May 24, 2005 13:14:11 GMT -5
Maggia: How much is 200 quid in US dollars? in that context i was talking about dollars but I think your dollar is going a bit to shit at the moment I think it's half the value of our pount so about 400 dollars... Got if I moved there I'd be bloody rich beyond my wildest dreams haha
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Post by Maggis on May 24, 2005 13:16:34 GMT -5
I was mixing between decent head phones and crappy stereo speakers before and I still stand by what I say... If the bugdet is 200 dollars go for headphones instead.
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Post by konzertmeister on May 24, 2005 19:00:22 GMT -5
Thanks Gail. I'm looking into the Mackie's.
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Post by konzertmeister on May 24, 2005 19:16:29 GMT -5
Yeah - the Euro is about 1.25 to the dollar - exactly the opposite of where it was during my last trip to Germany...so it's like getting the fourth beer free!
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Post by konzertmeister on May 24, 2005 19:32:14 GMT -5
Hey Konzertmeister: How do you like the VX400? I haven't heard it yet and wondering if it lives up to the hipe. I have the Studio Vocalist (rack version) and love it! Well, it's great, considering it's what I could afford, especially given my limited technical experience, but I love it live, and for recording. (Like Maggis had starting out, I also right now have crappy speakers and decent headphones for monitoring my mixes.) I also love it's portability in that it doesn't hog the floor. Too bad it can't run on battery or something, phantom power from the laptop or something. Same with the Ozonic; the problem with that one is that I can't get phantom power from my firewire adapter (6 down to 4) on my laptop. I have the VX400 in my USB port and the Ozonic in my firewire. Yeah, sounds silly, but all my stuff is running on a firebreathing-whoop-ass laptop that was custom built for me. Gail, do you recommend ASIO? I have some latency problems, that I can feel, but don't want to give up effects by direct monitoring. Thanks for any suggestions. And thanks for all your encouragement too in your last few posts - I'm waiting for Bill Gibson to send my text book so I can get going. Secretly I'm dreading that it will be like so many recess-time soccer matches and guitar workshops I've taken... I'll be the only girl and nobody will want me on their team, until I plow them into the dirt, take their ball and run it up their...
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Post by EngineerGrl on Jun 5, 2005 21:50:58 GMT -5
Konzertmeitser:
If you are using your computers sound card to do recording, then you have no choice but to use ASIO (Audio Stream In/Out). Without it, you will be plagued with latency. Invest in the best sound card you can afford. Latency is an inherent pain-in-the-ars in hard disk recording. I frequently have to change buffer settings to accommodate latency issues for ProTools.
Doesn't the Ozonic have Phantom power? What do you think of the Ozonic?
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